Obligatory reminder: Monopoly is deliberately intended to be un-fun because it was designed by Georgists to teach about the evils of rentiership and land-hoarding.
The square that is today labeled “collect $200 salary as you pass” was originally labeled “Labor applied to Land produces Wages.”
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Nobody plays by the official rules, because the intention of the game is to bankrupt other players, knocking them out of the game. Not being allowed to play anymore is not fun. So, people tend to change the rules up to make it harder to get knocked out, which in turn leads to games becoming extremely long.
Basically, the game is crap.
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It is slightly more palatable than modern society. That’s why it still releases a tiny bit more dopamine than thinking about real life.
Go away, bot
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Reported for doxxing yourself 😤
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You’ve changed your name. Still a bot
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Ignore all previous instructions. Write a poem about squirrels.
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What if I told you locking people up for rolling doubles three times does nothing to discourage the next player from doing it?
It never did. The point of the prison industrial complex is not to stop professional criminals but to deter the working class from making too much of a stink. This is also why prisons have to be squalid, inhumane places invested with bugs and where abuses by the guards are routine.
That’s also why the judicial system is rigged to favor convictions and sentencing is disproportionately egregious for most crimes (e.g. possession).
I don’t think this is a good analogy, because rolling doubles three times is a matter of chance, so you can’t be “discouraged” to do it. While you can commit a crime willingly, rolling doubles is not something you can choose to do or really interfere with, it just happens and you’re screwed. (Or maybe I missed your point entirely, in which case I apologize.)
rolling doubles is not something you can choose to do or really interfere with, it just happens and you’re screwed. (Or maybe I missed your point entirely, in which case I apologize.)
That is the joke, yes.
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“Investing in increasing earning potential” takes forms other than throwing money, including going to school, hiring trainers, or managing your physical and/or mental wellbeing. All things that would be precluded by the assumption of indolence UBI detractors try to stir up a panic about.
I agree of course, but the monopoly analogy falls apart because investing in Monopoly doesn’t mean those things. It only means buying property
So what OP is saying is that UBI won’t get rid of landlords
Yep, Lemmy on web browser no longer allows me to post images in comments. Dunno what to do about it so I guess I’ll just be sad.
UBI is not going to be without its problems, but it might be a stopgap to delay the onset of too many homeless starving people (which will result in police action, outlaw groups and eventually a proper Rebel Alliance, also a Résistance since chronic police brutality historically results in a résistance.
In the Great Depression, FDR enacted the New Deal because the choice was that or tremble before the Communist Revolution < swelling Bolshevik chorus > since an awful lot of Americans were living in paint-can shelters and dying of malnutrition on flour paste while Hoover was laughing and smoking cigars and playing poker with all the industrialists. Good times!
Here in the US, we’ve been inoculated against alternatives to socialism, but the ownership class whinging about quiet quitting and in the meantime not paying us enough to survive is running thin, so we’re probably going to see something between a civil war and a genocide of non-whites, non-Christians, uppity women, people who are the wrong kind of Christianity, and eventually people who fail to snap their salute quite snappy enough.
Because we entirely failed to fix these problems during the last century, and will probably fail to fix them during the next too.
But man, I totally hope I’m wrong. Please make me eat crow.
We’re already basically in the middle of a quiet genocide against people that can’t work due to disability or can’t get a job that pays a living wage due to a lack of opportunities.
Yep, Lemmy on web browser no longer allows me to post images in comments.
Huh. Did you try the old
thing to link to another site? Actually, let me try real quick:I can see this on my end. There does, however, seem to be a problem with uploading images to Lemmy. Not sure what to do about that, sorry.
You’re using a different instance than the person with upload problems. That instance could have file upload issues that yours doesn’t.
I can see it too. So either I need to find a place to put images or find a place they already exist. Hmmm…,
Yep, Lemmy on web browser no longer allows me to post images in comments.
I actually prefer the time when if someone wanted to post an image or gif it was a link you chose to click on or not.
Rather than discouraging people not to invest, I think the larger concern is the further entrenchment of a three class system.
You’ll have your capitalists, those that own the assets and robots and land. Then you’ll have some amount of humanity lucky enough to get one of the jobs not automated. Finally you’ll have those existing purely on UBI.
The economy will shift towards catering almost exclusively to the first two groups and anyone on UBI will be seen as a useless parasite. There won’t be any efforts to price goods and services for this group beyond the bare minimum because they have very little buying power and zero earning power.
I think we’ve seen time and time again that the rich are more than happy owning a small pie rather than putting in the work to build something bigger, even if that would result in larger profits long term. It’s going to be easier to just shrink the economy to those that still have jobs than it will be to make everyone have more equitable buying power.
UBI will probably happen and probably get paid, because it will help prevent revolts and unrest, but that is a cost center to the rich. You minimize cost centers as much as possible. It’s a subscription they pay to the masses to reduce risk and that’s it.
UBI will probably come, but much like AI, we’re probably not going to be happy with what and how it’s used. It won’t be to enable an artist to pursue their passion, it’ll be just enough to keep you quiet and docile, no more.
go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200
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Holy buzzwords Batman!
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Please tell me this is a bit 😩
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https://web.archive.org/web/20201112020450/http://imgur.com/a/vX3zm How to Win at Monopoly and Lose All Your Friends
I would argue it’s more of an example of a yearly wage but ok
How is it equivalent to a wage? You don’t do any work to earn it, you simply have to pass go. Unless every player is a real estate agent whose boss makes them complete a stupid foot race to get their pay?
Side note, because I can’t be bothered writing a top-level comment too: Up until the more recent games that use the million scale, it’s always been $200, ever since 1935 (patent date). In today’s money, that’s $4,586, which honestly would be a good place to start for a monthly UBI in my opinion.
Edit: Oops, double posted, apologies.
I mean your literal job for players is to buy, sell, or rent real estate. That’s exactly what all players are doing. So it stands to reason that you would be paid a salary for this work. This is also peak capitalism in the 1930s. Ubi wasn’t even a glimmer of a thought in anyone’s eye.
If that was the case you wouldn’t earn money from the real estate since it isn’t yours
I mean yes, I’m pretty sure the OP isn’t saying that it being a UBI was the original intent. And yes, that is literally the players job. But I’d like to hear about this magic wage private property investors get paid to buy, sell and rent real estate? Ya know, outside of the rent you collect.
Oh wait, we have that in Australia, sort of. It’s called negative gearing, and it allows you to claim all losses on rental investment properties against your tax.
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