• IcePee@lemmy.beru.co
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    9 days ago

    This is yet another nail in the coffin of physical media. Or, in other words games you actually own instead of long term lease.

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      9 days ago

      It’s not like physical media makes any difference anyway these days.

      Actual disk often gets just a glorified installer, and even if it includes the entire game you’re likely to have to activate it online anyway.

      The “own your games” ship has sailed long ago, unless you only buy no-DRM and your own backups.

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        9 days ago

        unless you only buy no-DRM and your own backups

        Going to have to plug GOG here as these are both things they offer. I try to buy games there instead of Steam, purely for this reason.

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          9 days ago

          Going to have to plug GOG here as these are both things they offer.

          Note that this is a major selling point for GOG and available on most of their library, but unlike their early days, not everything is DRM-free.

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        9 days ago

        The difference is the price of buying discs vs. buying from a digital store that has no competitors.

        I’ve bought almost exclusively second-hand discs for my PS5, because they’re like half the price for the exact same content.

        Sadly it’ll probably be just a matter of time before those will be phased out as well, one way or another.

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        9 days ago

        This in my opinion is one of the valid use cases of a blockchain/NFTs: they provide provable ownership of digital goods. This means that if implemented, in the future we could actually own games music movies ebooks etc. The only remaining step would be a decentralized torrent-like system that allows the users to download the licensed content that they own via their nft.

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          9 days ago

          I mean, I can actually own a bunch of stuff as long as it doesn’t have some sort of proprietary DRM bullshit attached to it.

          The problem isn’t that there’s no way to obtain media in a non-bullshit way. The problem is that distributors don’t want to provide media in a non-bullshit way.

          • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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            9 days ago

            Sure, you can still own digital media, but you can’t sell or trade it like you can with a physical copy.

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          9 days ago

          If you can’t modify it, sell it or know what it’s even doing then calling that “ownership” of software is rather lacking. I mean in terms of traditional ownership, not the modern definition: “page 69 of the EULA defines “purchasing” (the software) as a limited, non-transferable lease which can stop working at any time due to dependency on a proprietary server code we will never share I fucked your mom”.

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        9 days ago

        Is it possible for modern games to fit on a disk?

        I think it would be an interesting change if brand new games had a hard limit on file size so they can fit on and play from an actual disk.

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          9 days ago

          Absolutely. It just depends a lot on the game of course. A blueray disk can contain over 100 GB. But a game could be split over several disks too. It was rather common to do that with CDs on the original PlayStation.

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        9 days ago

        I’m glad some companies are going full media and the younger Gen is buying physical media. It’s creating a counter culture that smart companies are using to their advantage.

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        9 days ago

        It does if you rent

        I’ve been using gamefly for a while, I can’t rent digital only games

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      9 days ago

      Or, in other words games you actually own

      Newer games rarely have the entire game on the disc. Usually there’s mandatory patches that must be downloaded to play it. I’ve seen games where there’s only a few hundred MB on the disc while the whole game is maybe 15 or 20 GB.

      This means you don’t really own the game, since if Sony take down the downloads for the game, you won’t actually be able to play it any more.

      Essentially your choice is between a physical license key (the disc) plus a download of the game, or a digital license key plus a download of the game.

    • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.clubOP
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      9 days ago

      IDK. Between the price tag and lack of the disc drive IDK how many people are gonna buy this thing. It’s probably just for people who HAVE to have the highest graphics, to keep them from getting a gaming PC until the PS6 is ready for them.