Time magazine called the ex-president’s plans ‘an imperial presidency that would reshape America and its role in the world’

Donald Trump has warned that Joe Biden and his family could face multiple criminal prosecutions once he leaves office unless the US supreme court awards Trump immunity in his own legal battles with the criminal justice system.

In a sweeping interview with Time magazine, Trump painted a startling picture of his second term, from how he would wield the justice department to hinting he may let states monitor pregnant women to enforce abortion laws.

Trump made the threat against the Biden family in an interview with Eric Cortellessa of Time, in which he shared the outlines of what the magazine called “an imperial presidency that would reshape America and its role in the world”.

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    Fuck TIME Magazine for giving anyone a platform to make threats against others.

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      But it’s important that the stuff he says gets documented. If for no other reason than if it all goes downhill, the alien anthropologists can figure out what the hell happened after we exterminate ourselves.

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          Except he can still run for and win the presidency from jail. Clearly still important for anyone who is amazingly still on the fence to know that he ja threatening to do scary shit.

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            I refuse to believe anyone is still on the fence. There are bigots who support Trump, and there are bigots who support Trump but don’t want to admit they are bigots out loud.

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              Refusing to believe reality doesn’t make reality go away.

              Ironically, refusing to believe reality is something trump supporters are infamous for.

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              There are the people on the fence about voting for Biden. Given that it’s a two party system, that effectively means that some people are on the fence about whether they want to help Trump win or help him lose.

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                And I’m saying I think those people are liars. They want Trump to win, but they think admitting that out loud will make them look bad.

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    The implication, well one of many, is that the President is the one charging Trump with these crimes. He’s being charged for state crimes, by the various states AGs, in accordance to their laws. He’s also being sued civilly by people he’s defrauded, sexually assaulted, or defamed.

    The current president and current administration has had no input in any of this.

    The federal cases he has stem from his “mishandling” of classified documents after he was out of office. This case is being handled by a special prosecutor who is insulated from the executive and bound by laws, procedure, legal ethics, etc to act independently from the administration.

    So, at the end of the day it’s just more absolute horse shit from Trump and more evidence he should never be on the ballot.

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    “If you give me immunity for my crimes, I’ll give you immunity for your crimes. Deal?”
    “I haven’t committed any crimes.”
    “…”

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        Biden has not committed any crimes. Don’t conflate what Bibi is doing with what Joe is doing. They are not the same person.

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        Yeah almost like “genocide Joe” is an inane nickname mischaracterizing the situation or something.

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            Let’s reframe this a little bit.

            Would you agree to the nuance that a 1940s US nazi sympathizer, perhaps even one that sent them funds, isn’t as bad as the nazi soldiers or their commanders themselves? Or is that also equivalent in your eyes?

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        What would the reaction have been had he denied aid to Israel? The answer is fuck off, you made your bed.

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          His crucial role in support and push for the Iraq War which resulted in the estimated death of 1 million Iraqis and many american troops? Biden has been a war criminal and corrupt way before the palestine issue. You made your bed when you decided to give loyalty to these corrupt criminals. You’re the reason why we have shot candidates and why we have corrupt people in power. Gtfo

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            give loyalty

            See, this is where we differ. I am not loyal to Biden. I would support someone else in a heartbeat, have supported others instead of him.

            I am not loyal to him, nor the Democratic party. I am, however, strongly against Trump and practically everything he does and stands for. To that end, I have to do what I can to see that he not be in a position of power again. To that end, I will vote against him, even if that means a. Vote for Biden.

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            LOL - “crucial role”.

            https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/bidens-record-on-iraq-war/

            “Biden was a consistent critic of the way the Bush administration handled the war: Its failure to exhaust diplomatic solutions, its failure to enlist a more robust group of allies for the war effort, and the lack of a plan for reconstruction of Iraq. Some of his comments proved to be quite prescient, including his warnings about the likely higher-than-expected cost and length of the war, and the complexity of “winning the peace” once Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein’s regime was toppled.”

            “I will vote for this because we should be compelling Iraq to make good on its obligations to the United Nations,” Biden said. “Because while Iraq’s illegal weapons of mass destruction program do not — do not — pose an imminent threat to our national security, in my view, they will, if left unfettered. And because a strong vote in Congress, as I said, increases the prospect for a tough, new U.N. resolution on weapons of mass destruction, it is likely to get weapons inspectors in, which, in turn, decreases the prospects of war, in my view."

            You really need to stop blaming Biden for the actions of other people.

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              Cherry picked information to try and down play his role.

              1. Democrats controlled the senate and he was the chair on the senate committee of foreign relations

              “I do not believe this is a rush to war,” Biden said a few days before the vote. “I believe it is a march to peace and security. I believe that failure to overwhelmingly support this resolution is likely to enhance the prospects that war will occur …”

              1. He purposely chose witnesses in the hearing that all had a pro war positions.

              (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/17/joe-biden-role-iraq-war)

              More information can be found in the documentary “worth the price?” (https://youtu.be/rrLFQnlf6lQ)

              Joe biden’s support of israel isn’t anything new, in fact he once said, “were there not israel, the United States would have to invent Israel to protect her interests in the region”

              (https://youtu.be/FYLNCcLfIkM)

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            I don’t like that or anything else like it, including Israel, but I know the facts and the realpolitik and it was: rock -> Biden <- hard place. Israel was a big mistake by the USA and UK and as such they’re both attached by a un-severable umbilical. Nobody else would’ve acted any differently.

            My loyalty lies nowhere near Biden’s government - I’m not even from the US, I’m British - I’m just realistic about the breaks. Carry on with the principled stand and see what kind of sainthood it grants you. If you’re voting against Biden rather than opposed to Trump then you really will have a shit sandwich; your bed won’t be made at all, you’ll be sleeping rough.

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        You can disapprove of the actions but supporting an allied nation with money or weapon sales is squarely a presidential act, nobody thinks presidents should personally be held criminally liable for their presidential duties.

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        That might be a crime against humanity, but it isn’t a crime in the US criminal code.

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        You know Trump is the one who moved the embassy to Jerusalem which is ultimately the match that lit the keg.

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    Sure thing, just like he locked Clinton up. Why does anyone believe the stupid shit this idiot says?

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      It’s different now though. He didn’t have the power to lock her up. This time around, he’ll have Project 2025 behind him to allow him to do things like that.

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          He still doesn’t have an actual legal case against the Bindens either, despite a LOT of Russian support trying to falsify something.

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            He won’t need any. Can just “trump” up some charges (pun not intended). He’ll be a dictator, it won’t matter. He could shoot them on 5th Ave. and no one would say a thing

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          Yeah, I kind of always assumed that there were some skeletons in Hillary’s closet, but if Trump’s AGs didn’t even find anything that warranted an investigation…

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        He’s the exact same impotent blowhard. Not even his cronies will change that. He’ll lose interest the minute he’s elected, just like with Clinton.

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            I know about the boogeyman. Not even Americans are going to sit down and watch this happen.

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              I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard “Americans won’t let that happen” and then it happens.

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                These idiots are not going to magically be in the majority over night. How many tough guys write manifestos like that every day? Sorry I’m not scared by some big words by Charlie Kirk.

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              We have let every step leading up to our current stage happen without meaningful challenge. Why would this momentum stop now?

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                  Project 2025 is a plan already set in motion. It started when i was a child, and there really has been no real blow against its success.The setback of trump losing the election has not stopped the momentum. You can tell because the loss of rights is happening under the democrats watch. If you response is “well they really could not have stopped it” then the plan is working as intended

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      The guy literally tried to overturn an election he lost. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s just bluster, but at the same time it also wouldn’t surprise me that he is trying to become a tyrant.

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        Absolutely. As long as he keeps throwing these batshit fascist ideas out there, eventually one or more will gain traction and actually happen.

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    Not he says Biden has “committed many crimes” but won’t say what those crimes are.

    That will give you an idea of what he’s going to come up with to charge Biden with. And he’ll make it stick too.

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      That’s a common way of thinking in people with little to no ethics. They think everyone else is the same, and thus if you dig you’re surely going to find something.

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        That’s a problem with the Republican Party as a whole and why they’re constantly projecting. “We would have done that, so of course they did.”

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      If Isreal is found guilty of genocide and they will, Bidens roll would be considered aiding in said genocide and would be guilty under international law.

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        Found guilty of genocide by whom? The ICC? The U.S. is not a signatory.

        And if you think Trump, of all people, would try Biden for being complicit in genocide, you need to pick different mushrooms.

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          Oh I’m sure he would try Biden, and then be confused when he’s tried for the same thing. He needs a handler to not shove his own foot in his mouth

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    It’s crazy that this is even a political talking point. I support Biden in this election but I very much want him prosecuted if they have clear evidence of a serious crime he committed.

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    Funny to imagine how this story gets recorded and retold in history books. What a fool who was elected by fools. An honest low point for America.

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    I love how Trump doesn’t even understand that it isn’t Biden attacking him, it’s the justice department doing its job of getting criminals convicted. Barking up the wrong tree, dipshit.

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    He will just keep shouting as long as people are listening to him.

    Luckily those people are becoming fewer and fewer

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    Everyone knows these guys are just going to lie their way into the presidency right? As in just get fox news to declare early, then stand over election officials to call it their way.

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    Prosecute the Bidens on what grounds? The GOP have been investigating them for a few years now and have admitted they can’t find anything, other than Hunter’s tax evasion or whatever it was.

    He’s full of shit and just says whatever the fuck no matter how stupid it is because he loves the uneducated and his followers are certainly that. They believe anything from anyone with an R in front of their name.

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      I don’t think he understands or really believes that there are impartial laws. He thinks when he’s being prosecuted it’s just personal bullshit targeted at him, so he can do the same to anyone.

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      There’s the small fact that Biden hasn’t committed any crimes and is not facing 90+ indictments.

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        I meant preemptively. If Trump is threatening to prosecute him and he has his appointed judges on his side, then they can try some shit. But if Biden, for whatever reason that I don’t think will happen, says that he has pardoned himself and his family, then all that goes away. So then Trump can point to Biden and say, “see? he did it and he’s not guilty! I’m doing it and I’m not guilty!” Which is a bit of a fever dream but it’d be some sort of strategy to cleanse his name in the eyes of the public while staining Biden’s. That was my line of thought, not that I think Biden is guilty of crimes.