UFC star Paige VanZant said OnlyFans allows her to make ‘life-changing money’
That says a lot about UFC.
UFC pays like shit for all but the top talent.
Tbf, she was never at risk of being considered that so it doesn’t say that much about the pay scale vs OF.
and thirsty dudes.
They are loaded?
Until they unload.
And people wonder why all these teachers are ending up on onlyfans
One of the only major sports without a union
I always say the NFL is the worst sport for athletes because their bodies get destroyed in return for relatively little money (at least for everybody except the superstars), but that’s because I always forget about the UFC.
Don’t most sports league have unions? At least all major sports in the USA have player unions.
Yeah, in the USA all the main ones do. Idk about less popular ones like lacrosse or even MLS though
And probably a bit about UFC fans, too
For anyone that doesn’t want to click fox news:
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023/09/paige-vanzant-onlyfans-video-ufc-pay-money-net-worth
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She made that much because she’s a known fighter established within the UFC. UFC pays shit but it pays shit across the board unless you are a superstar.
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She’s making 50k a year + payouts from her fights.
Assuming a 100k win bonus (it’s actually closer to 400 if you believe random books blogs and Internet rumors) even on the low side shes already made 1M in the past 5 years or so.
Again estimating in their favor let’s say 60% of that goes to get camp and taxes. 125k a year for 3 fights is more than reasonable. It’s likely she is making more than that however.
She isn’t very popular and would never be able to support her own card. She’s also used her popularity to get on network TV, and rake in a few million by getting laid. It’s not even porn shoots. It’s her own terms and partners.
I’m not going to shed a tear for her. She’s set for life with any form of reasonable money management and clearly has leveraged her popularity from UFC and done well for herself.
If true, how much did she make in 24h on OnlyFans. She said it’s more than her entire career. I can’t believe she made over 1M in 1 day on OnlyFans.
It’s just 100k people paying 10 bucks each. It sounds like a lot of money but when you think about the numbers involved it gets really quite reasonable for someone in her position to do
It’s not even porn shoots. It’s her own terms and partners.
To somebody who doesn’t know the industry, can you explain to me why that matters in any way?
There’s probably a subtle difference between “exploiting yourself” and getting most of the money after OF fees, vs getting paid essentially minimum wage for a shoot which then gets repeatedly repackaged and distributed for the company that makes way more money off it than you ever did. Which on one hand is essentially the same as being any other actress, but also not remotely the same considering the material, and how many women regret being convinced to take part in it because of exposure and social backlash.
Would you like to shoot porn when someone you love and trust or a random person?
Would you like to shoot porn when someone you love and trust or a random person?
For me personally it would honestly depend on if it was for work or for pleasure.
For others, I have no idea.
My understanding of the original comment I replied to with my question was concerning business/work.
So you say I will not get much money on OF?
Not without some work and a nice set of titties or dick. Or maybe the fetish route.
What type of work? I can work.
Marketing, promotion, quality content generation - which in itself is a bucket load of work.
You’ve got actual production work, setting up a decent lighting/camera/sound system for your content, preparing everything you need to film or run a quality live stream. Post production, editing takes longer than people think.
But pre-production, there’s work to do on yourself, grooming and preparing physically, especially if you are going to be getting into anything fetish related, it adds another level of preparation (and possibly an extra level to post production clean up)
It’s also not something you can always compartmentalise, I have a friend who does some generic feet stuff, she had to quit swimming and change her entire gym routine to allow herself to shower at home, because catching athletes foot meant she’d loose income. She has to choose her socks and shoes based on protecting the physical appearance of her feet. She can’t just chuck on some thongs (flip flops) in summer because her clientele don’t like the tan lines and are vocal about it.
PR is important, you need to have time to engage with the audience, reply to messages and maintain the illusion of the parasocial relationship, to keep your subscribers keen. It can take easily take an hour a day to do if you have large enough fan base and want to maintain it.
There’s a lot to like about the “person next door” charm of a low budget, low effort approach to nudes and clips, but that’s what most people on OF are already doing, so if you want real money you have to set yourself apart from that.
Crybaby squat cobbler can pay in spades.
Marketing and promotion.
I think it’s sad seeing this considering all the women I know who have been suckered into making OFs only to make a few bucks from weirdos saving their nudes.
Porn is the same, really. Most people who do porn make very little money from it, but still have to deal with their naked bodies on the internet.
Seems like you should only do fans (and similar pages) if you already have a fan base in some other area. Otherwise it will end like you said.
All internet media is basically the same on pay. Most people on you tube or twitch don’t make much either.
Yeah, but they don’t put their naked bodies out there.
Yep, even more so if they had to due to unfortunate reasons. Though not entirely, it works the same way as any average person starting something likestreaming and thinking of making it big quick.
I reckon she only had this much success due to having some level of popularity to begin with.
I can’t believe this stuff, because it is a fox “news” article. Why was this even posted here? How can we be sure that this is even real considering everyone on this post says you don’t make jack squat on that site
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OK but she wouldn’t be as popular and wouldn’t have made that much on OF if it weren’t for her time in the UFC. I mean she’s hot yea, but she’s famous because of her mma career.
“Paige, yes!”
Just pics, or is she doing shows? There’s a “glad he ate her” joke in there somewhere…
It’s amazing what showing your boobs can do for a woman. It’d be infuriating if not for all the gender-based discrimination and life endangering bullshit they also have to deal with. Instead it’s just another example of why we deserve the extinction we’re currently bringing down in ourselves.
When I left reddit, I really thought I would see less incel shit. Guess I was wrong. How the fuck did this get 25 upvotes?!
I wonder if it’s just modern society that gives taboo to naked bodies. There are plenty of other societies whose people are buck naked and they don’t seem to think anything much about it. If there is no taboo on being naked, I’m sure Onlyfans wouldn’t make any money at all.
Plenty? Some societies have partial nudity as the norm, but this is the far minority, and even then it’s partial.
It’s so cool that we are giving young woman the idea that they can make money by selling their body. I’m sure that is great for society.
Dude, she was a professional fighter. She was already selling her body.
now she’s selling her dignity
WTF is dignity? Sounds like something religious nut jobs made up to control women with
I would say getting spitroasted on camera for the world to see is pretty degrading, and I think a lot of people share that opinion.
Sorry bro but someone else’s feelings doesn’t seem to be for you and your friends to decide. But you’re free to simply see it that way
God forbid I give my opinion on the internet
You should feel bad about that
You mean selling your body for fighting in UFC?
The story of the opposite - she makes more money not selling her body!
It’s so cool that
we areCapitalism is giving young women the idea that they can make money by selling their body. I’m sure that is great for society.FTFY
Whether doing sex work, manual labor, or a desk job, you are selling your body for profit. If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with Capitalism.
Neat friend, can you please clarify what it is we are doing with our bodies under not-capitalism?
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I’m sure all the girls who have their naked pictures permanently floating around the internet for creepy guys to jack off to are really happy with the 50$ they made doing so. For every successful only fans model there are 100’s who gave up their dignity for a permanent stain on their reputation that will follow them and their kids around for life.
In my opinion people should be able to do what they want with their own bodies (with the exception of meth, crack, etc) my problem with this only fans situation is that it’s just underscoring that our society only seems to value women for their sexuality. I don’t follow UFC but assuming she’s good at what she does it’s sad to me that society values her body more than her abilities. The same thing goes for the only fans teachers. I just wished we valued people for their skills and education more than their flesh. Like I said do what you want with your own body though.
Why don’t I have the right to do whatever drugs I like? I know what I’m getting into, and it’s my body. A lot of psychiatrists preach the benefits of mushrooms and acid for mental health. And meth and crack certainly aren’t as powerful as mushrooms or acid.
My personal opinion is that there are some chemicals that are so detrimental to a person that society has the obligation to limit their use. Also, there is no articulable right to drugs in the Constitution except alcohol through the 21st amendment.
Why would I base my opinions on what slave owners who had never seen a light bulb thought?
the Constitution and decisions by the supreme Court determines what your legal rights are. Your opinions are your own and you can base them on whatever you want
Okay but why would I base them on the opinions of slave owners? That sounds stupid and nonsensical.
So there are two things at play here: rights and opinions. Legal rights in America are based on the constitution and the decisions made by the supreme Court. I’m not saying that they’re correct or not; justified or not; or ethical or not. I’m just making a statement of fact that’s where rights originate from in US law.
Opinions can be based on whatever you want. You are free to agree with or disagree with both the Constitution and the supreme Court. You can consider them valid or invalid institutions.
I’m not trying to tell you that you should be of a particular opinion or not.
The reason porn pays is because so few woman are willing to give up their dignity for the sake of temporary cash flow. If everyone did porn, people would be making scraps.
Pornography is not a scarce commodity.
not anymore its not, which is why very few make money.
There is a lot of pornography available. It is not a scarce commodity.
What is your point?
Your original comment:
The reason porn pays is because so few woman are willing to give up their dignity for the sake of temporary cash flow. If everyone did porn, people would be making scraps.
You’re making a basic supply and demand argument. As supply goes down (i.e. becomes scarce) and assuming demand remains constant the cost will increase.
If you’re selling apples. And 100 people want apples. The price you charge will fluctuate depending on how many apples you have. If you have 10 the cost goes up. If you have 1,000 the cost goes down.
My argument is pornography is not scarce. Meaning there’s a lot of it available (on the market) so I disagree with your assessment as to why “porn pays”
Yo… You think people never thought about selling sex before this was posted on Lemmy?
This is like giving people the idea of the wheel. I’d be willing to bet that human beings bartered for sex before they bartered for food or water.
… human beings bartered for sex
I think you mean men bartered for sex before food or water.
Women are smart enough to put their lives before sex.
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve read in a while.
Doing porn is a permanent stain on your reputation. I hate seeing young girls turn to it because of the easy money to be made. For every girl that has success on only fans is 50 girls who will have their nudes circulate the internet for eternity for a measly 100$.
It’s only a permanent stain to people who care.
The people who make a big deal out of it are the ones that should be ashamed.
And a lot of people care. So it does matter.
Barring any of the other context here, you need to back up and think about why you think it’s so awful for a nude picture to exist.
Are you helping or are you pushing your own moral code onto those who may not share it?
I’m giving my opinion. If nudes are so harmless, why is revenge porn such a big deal? The answer is because once your nudes are public, you are no longer in control. Any man can see your most intimate moment and do with it how they please, and you can do nothing to stop it. Your child will have to grow up knowing there are videos of your mom shoving a cucumber up her butt for a months rent.
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You lose consent forever when you release porn. You can never go back on it. You might be okay with it today but you have no choice how others use it for the rest of your life.
Also relax a bit, no need to sperg out in a civil conversation.
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And what’s wrong with that? I have a cucumber in my ass right now. So what?
I don’t think it’s healthy for a child to have their friends show them pictures of their mother in intimate situations.
I don’t think it’s healthy for you to worry so much about what other people do with their bodies.
Agency, that’s the difference between revenge porn and this.
Do you think that young women don’t figure it out on their own? I’m not saying this is a responsible article, but it’s more like a glowing article about how much oil field workers make. But sex work is old and young women have always figured it out.
I think we have yet to see the full impact of the damage to young women who were sold a dream of making money on only fans. Instead they will have their nudes permanently passed so disgusting old men can jack off to them. There is no undoing that and I suspect that will haunt a lot of girls far into the future.
Not on OF, but I’ve got nudes out there. I really don’t give a shit who sees em. I’m not ashamed of them. Where do you get the idea that irreparably damages women?
Cool, you have no shame for your actions. Glad you are able to live with your choices. A lot of people can’t though.
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